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Jan 2007
Astral Dream Dark Presence
Posted in Dharma Journal, Dreams, Astral Projection by samsara at 10:59 am |

Before you all go thinking I went bonkers let me offer fair warning in my first post on dreams. I did say I would have a section devoted to dreams and would be exploring mine. I haven’t kept a dream journal for the longest time and now this outlet will be my venue. If you have this perception of me that I’m grounded and soothing and healthy, well this next post may disturb that thought so let me offer you the chance to go elsewhere now.


astral projection plus a dark presence

The night of Saturday January 20th is when this darkness would occur. I’d not had dark astral dreams since I quit drinking. This was by far the most insidious and relentless. I was sleeping. I “awoke.” Bear with me here.

A black mist. Not the black mist in movies but a dark, dense something I could feel more so than see - but could see as well as it hovered to the left of me in my bed. I was on my stomach physically - because that’s how I sleep. Astrally however, I was on my stomach threatening to float out the window when I noticed this thing.

I became frightened. I don’t know about anyone else but I don’t talk when I am in astral world although I try when I am frightened. I remember trying to scream for my beloved to wake me up. I remember that the dark presence was then above me and slightly skewed to the left - almost as if it was saying I couldn’t astral out that way either.

I remember continually trying to come back into my body and into my beloved’s “sleep space”, who sleeps to the right of me. Somehow I had it figured I needed to be close to someone because this thing was threatening me. It felt as if the entire ordeal lasted anywhere from thirty minutes to three hours.

The next night I finally asked my beloved if he’d noticed anything weird with me. Hadn’t he heard me screaming for him? He, of course said no but did claim that I was in the center of the bed with him to the edge. Which offered proof to me that I was making my way toward his sleep space when the astral boogeyman was out to get me.

My beloved, always the one to bring a grounding to a situation said, “You tell him that we have a dreamcatcher over this bed and a crucifix above this bed.”

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    A Darn Good Look At Living Within Samsara | Darn Good Reviews said:

    […] Being open about her recovery from alcoholism, Samsara shares her experiences and her advice so that others may benefit. In addition to writing about the well-known Alcoholics Anonymous program, she’s able to inject a little of her own struggles in other posts such as Astral Dream Dark Presence and Done with Alcoholics Anonymous. In fact, I’d say this latter post of hers is a testament to how she continues to break free from the embrace of alcoholism by informing her readers how her AA group failed to meet their objectives. It takes a strong person to not only identify something like that, but to also act on it by deciding to leave the group and seek help elsewhere. […]

    jasmine said:

    i to have had these experiences from a young age. Last night while watching a show based on haunted places, (which i didnt find scary) half of them seem staged, anyways i kept drifting in and out of sleep, but while doing so i heard noises that seemed related to the place being shown. yet when i would open my eyes i heard no such noises on the show.. afterwards and watching some music shows etc to clear my head, i started drifting off to sleep, cuddling in to my partners back. i felt myself walking into some dark place, im not sure of the location, but i realized there was danger ahead.. upon making this realization something had its hand over my mouth in my bedroom standing behind me, and starting suffocating me, and pulling me backwards off the bed…
    i could not breathe, i started crying out, and felt myself kick my partner under the sheets because i could not breath, so i needed his attention.. when i awoke i could not breathe, and hid under the blankets for several minutes. not one bad dream in my life has ever made me call out for help or act this way, and the rest of the night when i shut my eyes i kept having nightmares where i couldnt tell if i was there or here, my tv switched off when i was thinking “please dont turn off yet im not ready to go to sleep” and then not long afterwards a strange orange colour light in my hall, but no other car or house lights would or could have made this colour.. i could not sleep all night, fearing a presence coming back, and i was so white and my legs were so weak i could barely stand up..

    the dream or whatever it was , was so real that i thought that there was a real person in the room attacking me.

    normally i might put it down to just a bad dream, but not long before my sleep i was talking about wanting to be a parapsychologist.. as ive tapped into many things before, usually foreseeing dreams of future events, however minor, then them occuring not long afterwards.. its like a dream foreseeing gift i have, but its random as to when it occurs.

    my partner said maybe you should be careful what you wish for? was something giving me a taste of what its like to experience the paranormal.. was something playing with me?

    i have had a few experiences of something trying to choke me, or contact, or heard voices etc in rooms i believe to have some kind of presence…. however none this bad..
    i know i have certain abilities, but i try not to tap into them..

    i do believe some of us travel to somewhere in the dream world, but in this case it felt like it came back with me, and wasnt meant to.
    i try to look at these things from a scientific point of view, but it was to real, and my dreams of future events have def come true everytime, so i cant help but wonder if i stepped into a different kind of dream, one in a place i shouldnt have gone into… and found something that wanted to torment or hurt me.

    K said:

    I read this and could relate to the experience so well. I am about to go into detail so I hope this worries no one. I was alone in my room at my grandmother’s house, only her and I lived in that house, but any time I left my room, I felt I had to turn all the lights on in my path because I felt a subconscious fear of the dark, and felt as if someone was watching me at all times. Once my cousin came over and we were talking in the kitchen and I suddenly stopped talking and told her that i felt a presence come up to us and observe. I literally thought my boyfriend had come into the kitchen (he was staying the night), but no one was there. She admitted to feeling the same presence. I have had sensitive people see dark masses in my bedroom. Whenever I was attacked, I would fall asleep with so much more ease than ever before, the lighting changed, the sound frequencies changed, it’s as if I were trapped in another dimension. Things felt like they were in slow motion, I tried to scream and move, to wake myself up, to escape, but nothing came. I felt pressure inside of my body, up against the back of my ribs, as if something tried to take control of my core but I was rejecting it. I tried so hard to whimper “help me” a few times, once I said “help me,” I felt another presence that was not the same. I was energized and made stronger and able to say the words assertively to rebuke satan in the name of jesus christ. Once I said those words I felt the presence come out my mouth and roar the last few words, which was terrifying that it came from my body and went out my bedroom door. I was able to awaken. I was terrified. I went to wake my grandmother and smoke a cigarette outside, when I was praying constantly for the evil energies to retreat, then I vomited… Which freaked me out even more… Astrally I saw myself in my grandmothers bed unable to control my contorting body rolling back and forth… It was pretty scary. I have never dealt with any sort of realistic nightmare like this, when i was a child I had other experiences with spirits and people who have passed, but never these demonic seeming figures until the past year. The last experience I had was a couple days ago. Got the feeling I was being watched in my boyfriend’s empty house, then as falling asleep I gasped loudly and jumped, then starting praying and the light turned on and off… What do you think?

    cassy said:

    Hi everyone. Okay so here it goes. I am 17 and have lived through many hard times, I am also a young mother. the reason I tell you this is because I am lost, I do not know weather these dreams are stress and my unconcious mind telling me more about myself or if it is of the ethereal realm. as a child i saw people no one else would see, up untill i was pregnant with my son I had dreams/nightmares where there were people just like you and me communicating but then there were spirits……others who could control the people in my dream, influence them in some way. In quite a few of these dreams/nightmares the spirits or entities came to me in human form but i knew they were not “human”? anymore. I know it all sounds confusing and up until the other day i thought I had just been watching to much tv and letting my imagionation run wild. But then it occured to me that up until my son was born a few of the settings my dreams were in ended up being real places, ones i had never visited or even had knowledge of, in very few instances in my past i could walk into a building and know where every room was, where to go for certain objects. I dont know what to make of all of it. all I know is that I would appreciate some help in figuring out what is going on and if it is some sort of paranormal phenomena, I hope to also find out wether or not to tune it out or embrace it and let it grow into something I can use to do better in this world when others have left it.

    Kurt said:

    I have experienced these types of dreams. Back when I was in my teens I met a lady that started teaching me about her belief in who God was; her name was Barbra. She practiced astral projection with me and taught me how to visit places. Places in my past, worlds, life’s. During all of this I was becoming more and more sensitive to spirituality. While fully awake it got to the point where I was actually seeing and feeling other peoples auroras… angry, happy… that sort of thing. I would even see shades of images every now and then… spirits of the dead or demons moving around us. There is this fuzzy feeling in the center of my forehead that would just start squirming during these episodes… she called it the spiritual eye. Anyways, I would astral project and talk to dead peoples spirits, living peoples spirits. I remember one time we did this with my mother and I went into her body. I felt her anger and despair; I cry as I type this. I explained to my mom what I felt and she began crying. Barbra asked her to test me; ask me a question she would like an answer too. My moms question was “When will my income tax be here? I really need it.”. Too me all I felt was 2 days… 2 days later on that Thursday she got her money.

    During this time I would also have vivid, dark dreams. Once I was in a car with Barbra… she was driving us somewhere. I herd evil laughing; the road fell out from below us and we started falling into smoke and blackness. I herd dogs barking and the evil laughing… I could smell smoke and feel fire. Barbra grabbed me by the shoulders and told me I had to leave; to get out. I forced myself awake… I was sitting up. I felt cold and empty in the pit of my stomach. I could still smell the smoke and hear the dogs. Other dreams I would have often would be either black dogs or black spirits stalking me. I believe that the black masses and forms are evil; demons or otherwise.

    I long ago walked away from what Barbra taught me. I had found teachings within the Bible that validate there are spirits and mediums that can speak with the dead. It also says; per the Bible, that it is wrong to do in God’s eyes. I have chosen to believe that. I believe that it is dangerous to go there. Evil can get into you there. I had it come to me many times in the form of light or happiness only to change into a dark form and attack my soul. It is a sick feeling; very cold and helpless. Nausea and fear consumes you.

    I still get the fuzzy feeling on my forehead a lot. Its actually irritating. I am tired of it. I don’t have those type of dreams anymore at least.

    I have to thank you for this website. I have an alcoholic girl friend and that is what brought me here. In reading ‘Words that hurt, words that heal’ I have begun to face my own demons; it has opened my eyes and my heart to changing. Thank you.

    Emily said:

    I am an HSP (I was directed here from that website). I have had sleep experiences similar to what you describe since I was a child although mine I would describe with a little more terror (who am I kidding, a lot more terror). These episodes are called “sleep paralysis” in the medical field (I only discovered this through research as an adult). If you research that condition I’m sure you’ll be amazed at the similarities in people’s experiences with sleep paralysis (Also called “Old Hags Syndrome” in more ancient times). There are famous paintings that are believed to even depict this phenomenon (”The Nightmare” by Henri Fuseli and “The Scream” by Vincent Van Gogh). I found an amazing website years ago (although I’ve lost it in that time) explaining astral projection and how some believe it relates to sleep paralysis. It gave steps to bring yourself into a sleep paralysis to practice “taking control”. I practiced these techniques for a short time and was able to bring myself into sleep paralysis (or astral projection depending on your view) and make it into a wonderful experience where I levitated for the first time (either imagined or not, it’s hard to tell because these experiences are extremely lucid and realistic). But anyways. Back to science. Science states that this phenomenon occurs when the mind wakes up from sleep but the body does not. The body is paralyzed (this is the mechanism that stops you from acting out your dreams), you feel like you cant breathe or someone is sitting on your chest (because you breathing is regulated while your body sleeps-you are unable to “control” it), you hear strange things/white noise because your ears are not “awake”, you sense darkness/demons (because your eyes are actually closed but your mind assumes they are open because you are “awake”), and you hallucinate (during this state your body goes into shock and releases a hallucinogenic compound that is located in your pineal gland that is meant to be released only upon death-due to the state of shock your body falsely releases it and causes extremely lucid/realistic hallucinations). Often these experiences are explained as alien abductions, demonic possessions, going crazy, paranormal etc. For more information research Sleep Paralysis.

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